- Production of the 'P7' heel release design ended in 1997 with the KH date coded pistol marked 'P7' on the Grip and 'PSP' on the slide. The P7PT8 is a dedicated, straight blowback training pistol modified for use with the 9×19mm PT training cartridge (made by Geco) with a plastic bullet (weighing 0.42 g).
- One of the most often asked questions about HK firearms comes shortly after the proud new owner brings his prized new HK home, and starts looking closely at the gun. There are a number of unfamiliar symbols on the guns that I will explain here. In the above example, the Chantilly import P7M8 has a serial number of 86912. Simple enough.
SOLD FOR: $2,325.00
LSB#: 190626GG01
Make: Heckler & Koch
Model: P7M8
Serial Number: 107372
Year of Manufacture: 1993 (Slide Date Code)
Caliber: 9mm Parabellum
Action Type: Semi-Automatic, Grip-Cocked, Gas Delayed Blow Back, Semi-Automatic, Removable Magazine Fed Pistol
Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “HECKLER & KOCH GMBH / OBERNDORF/N MADE IN GERMANY” and “9mmx19”, the right is marked “WARNING REFER TO OWNER’S MANUAL / HK Inc., Sterling, VA”, “16-107372 M8”, “09/93” and with a boxed marking “BWB / 318” under a stylized eagle. There was another marking on the right of the slide between the serial number and date code which has since been milled off (likely a police marking). The right of the frame above the trigger guard is marked “107372 M8” as well with the same “BWB / 318” under a stylized eagle marking on the slide. The bottom of the left grip panel is marked “HK P7 M8”.
Barrel Length: 4”
Sights / Optics: The installed sights are night sights with a front blade and rear square notch with three tritium lamps dovetailed to the slide with the rear sight also secured with a set-screw. The front sight’s lamp has dimmed but is still useable in very-low to no-light environments, the rear lamps appear to have died completely.
An additional set of standard sights is included, the front sight has a white dot, the rear sight has two holes for dots, but no dots are present.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are two-piece textured black polymer panels. The backstrap and the front of the grip safety also have texturing to improve the grip. The right panel has some moderate scraping at the bottom. Otherwise, the grips have only light handling marks. There are no chips or cracks. Overall, the grips are in about Very Good-plus condition with the left panel Excellent.
Type of Finish: Blue
Finish Originality: Likely original to arsenal refurbish when sold out of service.
Bore Condition: The bore is mostly bright and the polygonal rifling is well defined. There is some very light erosion in the bore at the muzzle.
Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 95% of its metal finish. The finish is thinning at all edges. There are a few scattered minor marks, the most notable on the left slide flat toward the front. The slide has a very faint plum hue and the mill-mark where a marking was removed on the right slide flat appears just slightly more plum than the flat around it. The screw heads are sharp. The markings are crisp. Overall, this handgun rates in about Very Good-Fine condition as refurbished.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. This pistol features a gas-delayed delayed blow back system. The pistol’s action is cocked by squeezing the fore strap of the grip frame, delivering a smooth, short trigger pull. The pistol has an ambidextrous magazine release located on the trigger guard. The slide to frame fit is tight. We did not fire this handgun. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: Included is a black plastic Heckler and Koch box with the serial number molded into the front face of the lid, gas-cylinder scraping tool, gas-cylinder brush, the additional sights and a total of two 8-round magazines. The left of each magazine body is marked “P7M8 / 9×19” with one marked “IR” and the other “JB” underneath. The “IR” magazine has very faint operational wear, intact feed lips and a strong spring, in Fine-Excellent condition. The “JB” magazine has more notable operational wear in its finish with similarly strong spring and intact feed lips, in about Very Good condition. The scraper and brush show little to no signs of use with the brush still having its plastic bristle protector. The box has only minor storage wear with a Bundesgrenzshutz (Federal Border Guard) sticker on the inside of the lid, in about Fine-Excellent condition. One manual in German is included with the serial number written on the inside of the cover, another in English is included.
Our Assessment: The decision to equip West German police with an advanced 9mm service pistol and replace existing 7.65mm Browning-caliber weapons was prompted after the 1972 Munich Olympics Massacre. The new firearm was to meet the following requirements: chamber the 9×19mm Parabellum cartridge, weigh no more than 1,000 g (35 oz), the pistol’s dimensions would not exceed 180 × 130 × 34 mm, it should have a muzzle energy of no less than 500 J and a service life of at least 10,000-rounds. The pistol was also to be fully ambidextrous, safe to carry with a loaded chamber and able to be quickly drawn and ready to fire instantly. As a result of a competitive bid the German police forces selected three different pistols into service: the Swiss SIG Sauer P225 (designated the P6) and two German designs—the P7 (officially designated the PSP) and the Walther P5. Series production of the P7 started in 1979. Shortly after, the pistol was adopted by the German Federal Police’s counter-terrorism unit (GSG 9) and the German Army’s special forces formations. The P7 was produced primarily by H&K but also under license by the Greek defense firm Hellenic Arms Industry as well as in Mexico by the Departamento de Industria Militar (DIM), as a sidearm for general officers and staff. The pistol was also exported to several countries. This pistol was made in 1997. The polygonal rifling is still well defined with very light erosion near the muzzle and the pistol has a superb trigger pull that is initiated by squeezing the fore grip of the grip frame. While the typical German police issue P7 has a heel-magazine release, this P7M8 has an “American-style” magazine release at the trigger guard, though it appears that this pistol was a German law enforcement gun. It comes with its original box with manuals in German and English, two magazines and cleaning accessories. For the HK collector, this would make a fine addition. Please see our pictures and good luck!
CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This handgun CANNOT be transferred as a dealer sale but CAN be transferred as a PPT in our Simi Valley location. This does not apply to out of state residents.
Hk P7 Serial Numbers And Dates 5,8/10 8811 reviews Is there a source for learning, with a serial number, if it is a factory nickel. If it's a P7M8 or M13 with a KC(1992)date code and the grip screws.
Heckler & Koch HK41 | |
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Type | Sniper rifle Semi-automatic rifle |
Place of origin | West Germany |
Production history | |
Manufacturer | Heckler & Koch |
Produced | 1964-1976 |
Variants | HK41A2, HK41A3 |
Specifications | |
Mass | 10.9 lbs (4.95 kg) (empty magazine) |
Length | 42.5 in (1,080 mm) |
Barrel length | 19.7 in (500 mm) |
Height | 8.26 in (210 mm) |
Cartridge | 7.62×51mm NATO |
Action | Roller-delayed blowback |
Feed system | 5-round or 20-round double column, and 50 round single stack drum magazine detachable box magazine |
Sights | Hooded post front, rotating diopter sight |
The Heckler & Koch HK41 is a semi-automatic version of the Heckler & Koch G3battle rifle; it was produced by Heckler & Koch for the civilian market in the 1960s.[1] It is not to be confused with the similarly titled Heckler & Koch G41.
Current status[edit]
It is estimated that fewer than 400 HK41s were produced and even fewer imported into the U.S. for civilian consumption. Today, HK41s can sell for anywhere between $4,500 and $9,000 depending on the condition and the economy at the time. An original 1966 model with the push-pin hole in the receiver can sell for around $37,000. These are very scarce because most of them were used as hosts for full-auto conversions prior to the May 1986 machine gun ban. A full-automatic converted HK41/HKG3 can sell for over $20,000.
Variants[edit]
There are two models of the HK41:
- HK41A2: Fixed stock and semi-auto 'SE' trigger group.
- HK41A3: Retractable 1-position stock and semi-auto 'SE' trigger group.
Versions of the HK41[edit]
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- (1962): There are 3 different date stamps from this year in the United States, all with differences. By far the most desirable, and also the rarest, are the 3/62. These models are identical to the G3 Automatic Rifle except for having a swing-down semi-auto 'SE' grip assembly. It was able to be converted to a full-auto G3 by changing the trigger group and bolt, no need to change the location of the push pin or any of the other features. They were all marked G3. This is why it is the most desirable of all semi-automatic G3s, and they are also incredibly rare with less than 3 known to exist in the United States (known as Santa Fe 'swing downs') still in semi-automatic form. Most were registered as full-auto hosts. Their value as full auto hosts is no more or less than any other G3, it is their value as a semi-automatic which is extremely high in comparison to other G3s, having sold on Gunbroker for over $20,000 on two occasions, matching the prices of full automatic G3s. It might be one of the only examples of a fully automatic transferable that is valued the same whether or not it is in the registry. 7/62 is the second most common date from 1962, and like the March labeled guns was marked G3. However, the push pin hole was moved so that a full automatic trigger pack could NOT be installed without major machine work. They were stamped G3. The most common of 1962s are the 11/62, which is identical to the 7/62 except that part of the batch were labeled HK41s. They had the altered location of the push-pin hole, therefore requiring substantial work to turn into a fully automatic G3. There is a mix of G3 and HK41 markings among these date stamps. H&K changed their name to 'HK41' in an attempt to stay ahead of West-German Laws which prohibited civilian ownership of the G3 Automatic Rifle.
- (Early 1966): Unlike the 1962 Semi-Auto G3s, these 1966 models had the 'push-pin' hole in the correct place and thus could be quickly converted to an automatic by replacing the grip assembly with a full-auto 'SEF' trigger group. These had a magnesium phosphate parkerized finish, matching hardwood furniture (stock and forearm grip) and were date stamped '6/66'. Even though these versions have the push-pin hole in the receiver, they were grandfathered in as approved firearms after the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.
- (1966–1973): These models have strips of metal welded into the receiver and matching cuts made in the 'SE' trigger group to only allow the insertion of an 'SE' trigger group. These versions still had the a functional 'flapper' magazine release and the push-pin hole. These rifles had a matte black finish with a matching black stock and forearm grip, and were date stamped '11/66'. Very few of the 1966 models got into the U.S. However, between 1967 and 1974, none of these models were imported into the U.S, in part due to the Gun Control Act of 1968.
- (1974): These models had the locking-pin tabs eliminated on the front end of the grip assembly, and the corresponding locking-pin hole ('push-pin' hole) and bushing at the base of the receiver had a 'U'-shaped piece of metal inserted to prevent the attachment of a full-auto 'SEF' trigger group. This makes the 'flapper' magazine-release paddle between the trigger guard and magazine well inoperative, making the redundant release button on the right-hand side of the receiver the only way to eject the magazine. It also had the cocking-lever endcap altered to prohibit the mounting of most models of the HK G3 bayonet and had the snap rings on the barrel removed so that it couldn't fire rifle grenades. These were painted black with a semi-gloss finish and were date stamped '1/74'.
United States Importers[edit]
- Golden State Arms Co., Santa Fe Division [Pasadena, CA] — From 1962 to 1966.
- Security Arms Company (SACO) [Arlington, VA] — From 1974 to 1979.
- Heckler & Koch [Arlington, VA] — Took over the US import business themselves in 1980
HK91[edit]
Variants[edit]
There are four models of the HK91:
- HK91A2: Fixed stock and semi-auto 'SE' or '0-1' trigger group.
- HK91A3: Retractable 1-position stock and semi-auto 'SE' or '0-1' trigger group.
- HK91A4: Fixed stock, semi-auto 'SE' or '0-1' trigger group and Select Polygonal Bore.
- HK91A5: Retractable 1-position stock, semi-auto 'SE' or '0-1' trigger group and Select Polygonal Bore.
There were only 50 HK91s imported in 1974. For these, H&K dropped the month from the date code and replaced it with the number '19' in order to completely spell out the year of manufacture. Since they were built on surplus HK41 receivers, the end result was '19/74'. For the 1975 models, they stamped the year without the '/' in the middle.The reasons why Heckler & Koch renamed the HK41 in 1974 are unclear. Part of their reasoning could have been that they wanted to change the perception of the rifle as being a semi-automatic sporting rifle instead of a paramilitary rifle. Furthermore, gun laws that were adopted in West Germany around that time prohibited the civilian ownership of paramilitary rifles. (As a side note, HK41s that were sold in West Germany came without flash suppressors because they were prohibited under the West German gun laws). As a result, Heckler & Koch modified the weapon with a plate welded inside the receiver to prevent the mounting of a full-auto 'SEF' fire control group and re-designated the rifle as the Heckler & Koch HK91.[1][2] Late pattern HK41s and HK91s are virtually identical in appearance (except for the receiver markings and the retaining hole of the cocking tube end cap) and all their parts are interchangeable. The last few HK91s that were delivered to the U.S. in 1989 were blocked by customs after President George H. W. Bush issued an Executive Order banning the importation of 'non-sporting' rifles. These were slightly modified, to remove 'non-sporting' features like the flash suppressor, and the receivers re-stamped as the HK911, forming a transitional model between the HK91 and the HK SR9.
The HK91 is rather valuable in the United States firearm market since it was banned from further importation by executive order in 1989. Only 48,817 HK91s were imported into the U.S. prior to 1989. The retail price for an HK91 in the late 1970s was roughly $380 for the standard A2 models and $50 more for the A3 version. Prior to 1979, H&K did limited production runs of HK91s with polygonal rifle barrels. These were only $10 more than their standard counterparts. Today, original HK91s often fetch over $2000. The early 50 1974 'SACO' imports that are in good condition and have the old style 'SF' marked grip frame housings can bring a premium and are very desirable among H&K collectors. So are the 1988 and 1989 'Chantilly' models, which have the same satin semi-gloss black finish as the later HK SR9s.
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Licensed copies of the G3 and HK-91 were produced in Greece by Hellenic Arms Industry or 'EBO', using factory tooling purchased from Heckler & Koch. A small number of these HK-91 clones, which are functionally and aesthetically identical to the German-made rifles, were imported into America by Springfield Armory, Inc. and sold under the designation SAR-8. These rifles, which ceased being imported in 1994, are not to be confused with later Springfield-made SAR-8 model rifles which feature cast aluminum receivers and are considered of markedly lower quality, being valued at far less than the original Greek models.
As of today, HK-91 clones are available, such as the PTR-91 (Formerly JLD), which are built on the tooling used by arms-maker FMP to make the receivers of the Portuguese military's versions of the G3, the M/961 and M/963. Heckler & Koch's receiver tooling was sold to the American company Ohio Rapid Fire, which was in the process of setting up to produce receivers until the passing of the company owner, Todd Grove. Ohio Rapid Fire has since closed its doors in 2010.
See also[edit]
References[edit]
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- ^ abHKPro - 'The HK41: An HKPRO Exclusive Special In-Depth Feature' (Accessed May 28, 2006) Archived May 18, 2006, at the Wayback Machine
- ^HK G3 SpecificationsArchived 2006-06-21 at the Wayback Machine (Accessed May 28, 2006)